11. The Intersection of Pattern Dynamics and Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality: What Brings Us Together? David MacLeod interviews Tim Winton

David and Tim, I really enjoyed your conversation. When I was reviewing and proofreading your transcript for this issue, I kept thinking how complementary what you were describing was to some of the themes explored in my “Generative (En)closures” piece, and how it would have been good to collaborate or at least head-huddle a little before offering our respective contributions… But there’s still time for some head-huddling! I’d be interested, for instance, in a “Pattern Dynamics” translation of some of the concepts and dynamics discussed in my (dialogical) essay, and just exploring together what factors contribute to generative (and “deep dialogical”) spaces.