# The Secret Language of Birthdays **URL:** \ **Category:** Cosmos Café\ **Tags:** event\ **Created:** [June 21, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112 "2018-06-21T22:01:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mark\_Jabbour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/mark_jabbour/32/701_2.png) [@Mark\_Jabbour](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/Mark_Jabbour)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/1 "2018-06-21T22:01:17Z")
_Hi there! Below is topic template if you are creating a Cosmos Café event. If you are starting a general conversation, not intended to become an event, try posting in the #Commons channel instead, or simply ‘select all’ and delete this content create your post as per usual._ ### Topic title: [mm/dd] Cosmos Café: Your Name for the Event DELETE THE ABOVE LINES * * * **Day of the Week, mmd/dd 1 pm Mountain Time (Denver, USA)** (or choose your own timezone) (Convert time zone: [Time Zone Converter – Time Difference Calculator](https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html)) **ZOOM link: [Launch Meeting - Zoom](https://zoom.us/j/711610894)** Does when (date) you were born determine your personaly (personal reality)? ## Reading We’ll explore during the session. ## Seed Questions -Is there validity to the hypothesis? Q1 How many different personalities are there?- Q2 -Is the theory cross cultural? Q3 The analysis/research here totally nails Trump, Obama, myself, my father. What does that imply? w/r/t freewill? ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Jabbour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/mark_jabbour/32/701_2.png) [@Mark\_Jabbour](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/Mark_Jabbour)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/2 "2018-06-26T17:39:37Z")
Does anyone know Maxine Water’s birthday? because her call to (almost) arms has made me feel like a wanted man, fearful (almost) to go out into “the commons”. I’ve been vilified for my bumper stickers, can’t wear my “gear”, can’t let it be known whom I support. Nevertheless, I will publish my book, somehow. It’s done ,ready, - and exposes The Shadow in all humans. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Jabbour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/mark_jabbour/32/701_2.png) [@Mark\_Jabbour](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/Mark_Jabbour)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/3 "2018-06-26T23:16:01Z")
I looked it up. She was born August 15, “The Day Of Royal Command”. Strengths; commanding, decisive, expansive. Weaknesses: Overaggressive, insensitive. I suggest (if you’re curious) you check it out. And then, we’ll continue our conversation via the [@ccafe](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/groups/ccafe), in, whatever subject you want. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Jabbour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/mark_jabbour/32/701_2.png) [@Mark\_Jabbour](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/Mark_Jabbour)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 11:17pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/4 "2018-06-26T23:17:53Z")
oh, Napoleon Bonaparte shares this birthdate. Stay tuned … ---
**Author:** ![Douggins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/douggins/32/1351_2.png) [@Douggins](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/Douggins)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/5 "2018-06-27T13:23:54Z")
Look what I found this week! Paris, KY is a pretty cool podunk town. ![file](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/original/2X/8/82803584bfcc90183289d633af0d61ba3d923a7c.jpeg) …perhaps I’ll send a pouch to each of you for a ‘secret’ birthday gift. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Jabbour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/mark_jabbour/32/701_2.png) [@Mark\_Jabbour](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/Mark_Jabbour)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/6 "2018-06-27T14:02:01Z")
very cool.🕶 ---
**Author:** ![DurwinFoster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/durwinfoster/32/3849_2.png) [@DurwinFoster](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/DurwinFoster)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/7 "2018-06-27T19:09:56Z")
My thought is that since we tackled depression/suicide/death, perhaps we go with sex/Eros next time. ---
**Author:** ![madrush](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/madrush/32/6452_2.png) [@madrush](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/madrush)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/8 "2018-06-28T04:03:09Z")
> [@DurwinFoster](#): > > My thought is that since we tackled depression/suicide/death, perhaps we go with sex/Eros next time. Want to lead off a discussion on Tuesday? ---
**Author:** ![DurwinFoster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/durwinfoster/32/3849_2.png) [@DurwinFoster](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/DurwinFoster)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/9 "2018-06-28T14:11:10Z")
I feel some uneasiness about trying to lead off on this topic, and yet, I brought it up, so in service of having “skin in the game”, I am going to upload here a document that I started in the form of a proposal of something that I have been championing in the integral context for some time, although I haven’t gotten any traction with the project yet. Ken has given me his moral support that this would be a useful thing to have happen. It would be to construct an assessment on this topic.[Vision for Sex and Gender Reasoning Project.docx](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/uploads/infiniteconversations/original/2X/3/3eb4d1f2122d0e0c09163d9aa2d82317ece428f7.docx) (9.2 KB) ---
**Author:** ![achronon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/achronon/32/3458_2.png) [@achronon](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/achronon)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/10 "2018-06-28T15:22:12Z")
As the whole sex/gender thing is not a focus of my particular attention nor is it as big a topic here as it apparently is in North America. (I’m not aware of any particular debate going on in Germany (or Europe for that matter) on the subject.) I will be the first to admit that I have little, if any, clue why it is apparently such a big issue, so given that I have little connection to what the issues might be, I’m more than willing to show up for a discussion; if nothing else, to fill in gaps and just get generally smarter. ---
**Author:** ![madrush](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/madrush/32/6452_2.png) [@madrush](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/madrush)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/11 "2018-06-28T17:21:55Z")
That looks like a good start, Durwin. Are you proposing this topic for Tuesday 7/3? Would you like to create a dedicated thread here in the forum? Also, is there anything else you think we should take a look at (besides the Lecitca site and your project overview). Is there a specific way that lecitical assessment evaluates the level of ‘rationality’ of the actors it analyzes in the their Sex & Gender reasoning? Since I do not know exactly how Lectica works, probably the first think I would be curious about are the criteria and parameters it uses to make such domain-specific evaluations, and evaluations in general. ---
**Author:** ![DurwinFoster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/durwinfoster/32/3849_2.png) [@DurwinFoster](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/DurwinFoster)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/12 "2018-06-28T20:00:31Z")
Marco, we could do either or both of those, re: I could speak about the idea on Tuesday and/or you could create a dedicated thread. Also, I realize there is some controversy and competition between various assessment providers within the integral context, and one of the providers is Terri O’Fallon. Perhaps it would be courteous to invite her specifically to discuss her approach, since she has shown engagement with InfiniteConversations? ---
**Author:** ![madrush](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/madrush/32/6452_2.png) [@madrush](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/madrush)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 10:23pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/13 "2018-07-02T22:23:16Z")
Hi Durwin, we probably don’t have time to prepare anything for tomorrow, but I like your idea of inviting Terri to a discussion. It is just a matter of timing, I suppose. Would you like to reach out to her and set something up? ---
**Author:** ![DurwinFoster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/durwinfoster/32/3849_2.png) [@DurwinFoster](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/DurwinFoster)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/14 "2018-07-02T23:09:13Z")
I can reach out to her sure. and then, if we don’t get her, shall we wait for a chat on this subject? or go ahead? ---
**Author:** ![DurwinFoster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/durwinfoster/32/3849_2.png) [@DurwinFoster](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/DurwinFoster)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/15 "2018-07-02T23:09:34Z")
Stuart Sovatsky has a couple of good and perhaps relevant articles too. i downloaded them. ---
**Author:** ![johnnydavis54](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/johnnydavis54/32/114_2.png) [@johnnydavis54](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/johnnydavis54)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/16 "2018-07-02T23:48:28Z")
A suggestion. Bret Wienstien is a futurist who looks though the lens of evolutionary biology. He has a program that invites a developmental shift in a large group of humans, as we move towards a Planetary Civilization. Could we take a look at this talk and then think about the Integral Planetary Future(s) that have already been introduced? This might give a topic for tomorrow and get the ball rolling towards a deeper dive into Durwin and Terri’s approaches. My intention is to support this trend and create the conditions for Cafe with some fireworks! Unfortunately, there is little time to read a text so I make this suggestion as an adjacent possibility. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/G4NTbDD6PGQ/maxresdefault.jpg "The Social Brain: culture, change and evolution | Bret Weinstein (Full Video) | Big Think") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4NTbDD6PGQ) ---
**Author:** ![madrush](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/madrush/32/6452_2.png) [@madrush](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/madrush)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/17 "2018-07-02T23:57:18Z")
I’d love that. I have come across Bret Weinstein before and been impressed with this thinking. Also, I have had a long, expansive weekend, and it is a holiday week in the US, so something that doesn’t require reading is probably the best way to go at this point. ---
**Author:** ![johnnydavis54](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/johnnydavis54/32/114_2.png) [@johnnydavis54](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/johnnydavis54)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/18 "2018-07-03T00:05:43Z")
Yeah, I hear you. I can also offer a clean start to frame the conversation. The path of least resistance. ---
**Author:** ![DurwinFoster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/durwinfoster/32/3849_2.png) [@DurwinFoster](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/DurwinFoster)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 12:54am UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/19 "2018-07-03T00:54:56Z")
so this means NOT doing the talk about sex, gender, love? I ask because I went ahead and invited Terri by email. ---
**Author:** ![johnnydavis54](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/johnnydavis54/32/114_2.png) [@johnnydavis54](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/johnnydavis54)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112/20 "2018-07-03T00:56:48Z")
Sorry Durwin. I had know idea this was happening. Please ignore my suggestion and best of luck getting it all together. [Next page](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-secret-language-of-birthdays/2112.md?page=2)