# Upcoming Cafés – Summer 2023 and beyond **URL:** \ **Category:** Cosmos Café\ **Tags:** planning\ **Created:** [May 24, 2023, 4:24am UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/upcoming-cafes-summer-2023-and-beyond/5702 "2023-05-24T04:24:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![madrush](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/madrush/32/6452_2.png) [@madrush](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/madrush)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 4:24am UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/upcoming-cafes-summer-2023-and-beyond/5702/1 "2023-05-24T04:24:09Z")
Dear [@ccafe](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/groups/ccafe) crew… now that we’ve finished up our series on William Irwin Thompson’s _Imaginary Landscape_, the field is open for some new explorations and conversations. We began discussing this at the end of [our last conversation](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/cosmos-cafe-2023-05-18-wi-thompsons-imaginary-landscape-6/5689/8), though inconclusively, so the purpose of this thread is to share some ideas and come up with a plan. On a personal note, I will definitely be taking a summer break in July and August, but I could do a couple meetings in June (on the 1st and the 15th), and would be ready to pick up again in September. (Y’all are of course welcome to continue without me in the meantime.) One idea we floated was to have a talk about psychedelics. Perhaps we could do this on June 15? This could sync up with the huge [Psychedelic Science conference](https://psychedelicscience.org/) happening in Denver, June 19-23. We also wondered if @KlausSansaya would like to join us for this… since she previously suggested to me that we talk about this topic. **For next week,** June 1, @Ariadne has suggested that we watch and discuss a film that is dear to her, [Loving Vincent](https://www.lovingvincent.com), which is available for streaming but you might also find at your local library. I would be in for this. Anyone else? Thinking ahead to September and beyond… I have already mentioned my desire to host a series on [The Gift](https://lewishyde.com/the-gift/), by Lewis Hyde, as well as something by Rudolf Steiner possibly. Also, Maía has suggested: > [@\[Proposal\] Cosmos Café - Music Edition](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/proposal-cosmos-cafe-music-edition/3053/299): > > a book by **Frans de Waal: _Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are._** It’s chock full of fascinating studies and science philosophy: sharply questioning “human exceptionalism” and what is called “hominization” (not Teilhard’s version exactly), but that magic “spark” or “leap” that supposedly severed us from our “lesser” relations here on Earth. Finally, for a later read, which I think would in a way synthesize many of the philosophical threads we’ve discussed over the years, I think we should consider @MarcoMasi’s epic, [Spirit Calls Nature](https://marco-masi.com/2021/09/27/spirit-calls-nature-published/), especially if he can join us for these sessions. We have previously discussed the possibility… but it was some time ago. Any other ideas or suggestions? I would also like to welcome any new voices who might like to participate. Any would-be member of Cosmos is welcome to organize a Café and I’d be glad to help you set up a Zoom line and related discussion threads. Just chime in below! ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Stumpf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/michael_stumpf/32/9139_2.png) [@Michael\_Stumpf](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/Michael_Stumpf)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/upcoming-cafes-summer-2023-and-beyond/5702/2 "2023-05-24T16:24:08Z")
I’ll Be In Transition Back to Riverside,California on 06/01/23. Can make the 06/15/23! ![You Can't Stop The Waves #2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/original/2X/2/23a8c1fe0aa970c35c426f88c6eedf07561f5601.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ariadne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/ariadne/32/3561_2.png) [@Ariadne](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/Ariadne)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 7:23pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/upcoming-cafes-summer-2023-and-beyond/5702/3 "2023-05-24T19:23:10Z")
Marco and all, I’d like to add to the Loving Vincent film description that it is a very “psychedelic” originally hand-oil -painted painted (not AI) animation of V. van Gogh’s life, with many of his own paintings brought to scintillating, vibratory life through-out. ---
**Author:** ![achronon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/achronon/32/3458_2.png) [@achronon](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/achronon)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/upcoming-cafes-summer-2023-and-beyond/5702/4 "2023-05-24T20:50:39Z")
> [@madrush](#): > > **For next week,** June 1, @Ariadne has suggested that we watch and discuss a film that is dear to her, [Loving Vincent](https://www.lovingvincent.com), If I can find it online to stream, and if I can manage to watch it by then (as I’m somewhat gob-smacked by (a) how many places it is _not_ available to me (because of my geographic location … so much for the planetarization effect of the internet and web), and (b) what labyrinth of marketing ploys one must negotiate in a simple effort to find the lowest cost (I have no local library access where I could “borrow” the item at no cost so that I could just watch it.)… so much for the liberation of information). I just love how technology has bettered my life, and made it more reasonable (cognitively or financially), I’d be up for it. When you get _The Gift_ organized, I would be a willing participant. The very notion of “gift” has long fascinated me: in contrast to what that particular _sound pattern_ means in English, in German, it means “poison”. Reconciling the antitheses therein in my own aging brain is quite the challenge, hence I have a slightly different dynamic of the notion/“sound pattern” (“concept” is too narrow in this context) . Getting that sorted would be a welcome undertaking. > [@\[Proposal\] Cosmos Café - Music Edition](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/proposal-cosmos-cafe-music-edition/3053/299): > > **Frans de Waal: _Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are._** That CCafé (series) I wouldn’t miss for the world. Brilliant suggestion. > [@madrush](#): > > Finally, for a later read, which I think would in a way synthesize many of the philosophical threads we’ve discussed over the years, I think we should consider @MarcoMasi’s epic, [Spirit Calls Nature](https://marco-masi.com/2021/09/27/spirit-calls-nature-published/), especially if he can join us for these sessions. This might need some administration/coordination but it would certainly be worth a go, if arrangeable (MarcoM needs time to accompany it, and we’d need time to engage it.) Count me in on this one, too. ---
**Author:** ![Ariadne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/ariadne/32/3561_2.png) [@Ariadne](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/Ariadne)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/upcoming-cafes-summer-2023-and-beyond/5702/5 "2023-05-25T21:26:11Z")
Suggestion: let’s postpone Loving Vincent for now. We can still meet and converse re: “psychedelic” and related experience June 1st? I know how hard it can be to come up with certain books and films and music… and I’m always in favor of not rushing things, letting them evolve… ---
**Author:** ![madrush](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/madrush/32/6452_2.png) [@madrush](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/madrush)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/upcoming-cafes-summer-2023-and-beyond/5702/6 "2023-05-26T18:35:15Z")
Let’s talk about Psychedelics on June 1. I’ll be coming out of a meeting with a local underground psychedelic legend the day before, so will likely have some trippy download to share. I’ll create a page for it asap… but possibly not till early next week. Can you save the date for 2023-06-01T18:00:00Z (in your timezone)? @KlausSansaya, @Douggins, or others ~ you are also welcome to join us! ---
**Author:** ![madrush](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/madrush/32/6452_2.png) [@madrush](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/madrush)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/upcoming-cafes-summer-2023-and-beyond/5702/7 "2023-05-28T14:01:02Z")
Next Café page is up: > [@Let's talk about Psychedelics \[Cosmos Café 2023-06-01 & 06-15\]](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/lets-talk-about-psychedelics-cosmos-cafe-2023-06-01/5708): > > In your time zone: 2023-06-01T18:00:00Z (UTC) ZOOM video conference: [https://www.cosmos.coop/zoom/cafe](https://www.cosmos.coop/zoom/cafe) "I think of going to the grave without having a psychedelic experience like going to the grave without ever having sex. — Terrence McKenna ([full quote](https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/591880-history-is-ending-because-the-dominator-culture-has-led-the)) In some parts of the world, in recent years, the conversation about psychedelics has evolved away from the rhetoric of the (mostly failed) “war on drugs” to one about how we can relate to these substances in wise and healthy ways, on both p…