# What Do We Do When the System Crashes?

**URL:** <https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/what-do-we-do-when-the-system-crashes/3810>\
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**Created:** [February 19, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/what-do-we-do-when-the-system-crashes/3810 "2020-02-19T15:10:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ariadne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/ariadne/32/3561_2.png) [@Ariadne](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/Ariadne)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/what-do-we-do-when-the-system-crashes/3810/21 "2020-02-22T00:23:54Z")

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Ed, I think you’ll understand if I say, there’s just no way to talk about this pattern in human behavior without seeming to hurt someone or seeming to exclude them. We are all overlapping and all responsible in our ways. I don’t think of you as in any category, I think of you as Ed. That’s why I worry about saying almost anything. 🙂  
Thanks for being you.

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**Author:** ![Ariadne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/ariadne/32/3561_2.png) [@Ariadne](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/Ariadne)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/what-do-we-do-when-the-system-crashes/3810/22 "2020-02-22T00:35:00Z")

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> [@johnnydavis54](#):
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> “My mother did nothing to stop my father from attacking her male children. That carried for me a much deeper sting of betrayal, her refusal to protect me and my brothers, than my father’s perpetual, fist in the face violence. She confessed she had no where to turn for support. Nor did I.”

Yes, this was dynamic for me too. Actually my mother also resorted to violence and I was the between one, trying to negotiate peace between them and to protect myself from both of them. Impossible!  
There is so much to respond to in your comment here. I can’t physically do that now, but want you to know how valuable I find all you’ve said and posted.

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**Author:** ![Ariadne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/ariadne/32/3561_2.png) [@Ariadne](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/Ariadne)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/what-do-we-do-when-the-system-crashes/3810/23 "2020-02-22T00:41:28Z")

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Thanks, John, for this, too!  
In my family I was the story-holder/scribe…my parents are gone, but their stories not only are part of me, I’ve written a lot of them down. At this point, I’m the oldest one in our family…

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**Author:** ![johnnydavis54](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/infiniteconversations/user_avatar/www.infiniteconversations.com/johnnydavis54/32/114_2.png) [@johnnydavis54](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/u/johnnydavis54)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/what-do-we-do-when-the-system-crashes/3810/24 "2020-02-22T16:47:33Z")

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> [@Ariadne](#):
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> I can’t physically do that now, but want you to know how valuable I find all you’ve said and posted.

Thank you, Ariadne, and I hope you are feeling better soon.

> [@Ariadne](#):
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> In my family I was the story-holder/scribe…

I imagine we have a meta-pattern, a free floating motif, that writers and readers of all kinds, re-embody. And that trauma of the wounded child is a hugely compelling archetype, and like all archetypal patterns, must find a community of saints, to express and heal with. That we take on this role in family and other organizations is, perhaps, necessary for group coherence . Lovers of literature and history, as well as the street wise micro-narrative, helps us to self-correct, reshape our shared realities.

Thanks again for your glorious support!

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