Perfect words [CCafe 9/4]

I’m looking forward to talking about this. Thanks, Katina!

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Is the 09.04.18 Zoom-cast scheduled at 2:00 p. m. still on? I’m trying to coordinate my work schedule.

Don’t know if y’all are planning on dropping in tomorrow, but I’ll be there. I’ve put together a plan for a discussion concerning “perfect words”. I’ll cover why I listed the 3 books I did, plus this essay by George Orwell,

I’ll also link an article by Bobbi Low, giving you a sense of her writing (scientific), as I’m sure you haven’t read the book, “why sex matters”.
Then I’ll speak to why I write, and then tell you my 5 best books, read examples of “perfect words” - maybe no such thing? Then I thought we could go around the cafe table and each person could speak to the same - see if there’s any overlap, and then open it up for discussion.

It just occurred to me how the age/era we are in now - with social media and AI - being such a force in how we write (think), what with AI choosing, or suggesting, the words that come next, how that is shopping our minds and how that might lead to unintended (negative) consequences, or not, depending upon one’s view of what is, and is not, good, better, best, more perfect.

See ya later,
I’ll post Low’s piece next.


The article by Low. It’s about Climate Change, written in 1993, but holds true (perfect words?)

Don’t know - but I’m planning on checking in.

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I’ll be there. Thanks, Mark, for putting this together.

I think there may be some relation between this topic and a previous one — Cosmos Café: Creating Transparent Language [3/6] — just making a note here for later reference and intertextuality.


I think they’re all related, the topics, in a sense. Integrated, right? If we can just figure it all out … “Hey bartender … another dose of mind bending, please?”
"Was that the red pill or the blue pill you all were having?

“Bring 'em both.”


Actually, since you guys have a holiday tomorrow, I was planning on dropping in the day-after-tomorrow. :roll_eyes:

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There you go - I was just checking in to make sure I hadn’t misspoke, or misrepresented the day/time - and lo, I did.
To be be perfectly clear: Tuesday 4, September, 2018, @ high noon (12:00) MST.
I promise this - it will be interesting for curious minds.


2:00 p. m Eastern Time, correct? I took off work to make this gig. I hope that I have the time right. :smile:

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Yes, that is correct.

Just read through this topic. What an extraordinary exchange, above, between @johnnydavis54 and @KPr2204. What an honor to read your real stories and reflections—I would say your words are perfect enough.

The Orwell essay is also excellent, and sensible. Looking forward to the conversation. Thanks again for setting up the topic and the seed questions, Mr. J.

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Perhaps, “Perfect Words” are found in everyone’s story. Our words become perfected when we become willing to share our story.


Like our session this evening. Thanks again, Mark, for setting this up.

Though we shared favorite books, we didn’t get to share some “perfect words” … which – just to repeat, I don’t think there are – so, let me refer to them as a masterful turn of phrase. I have three:

  • “And so it goes.”
    (Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse 5; but it is only used when someone in the narrative dies. The context is important.)

  • “… the latter part of his life when age shall have blunted the zest of his earthly nature …”
    (Sri Aurobindo, The Life Divine, p 701; which I found to have a wonderful conglomeration of notions phrased in an almost Victorian (though by then I suppose it is actually Georgian) manner.)

  • “It looks like freedom / but it feels like death / but it’s something in-between / I guess.”
    (Leonard Cohen, “Closing Time”; for no other reason than it caught my ear.)

Just for yucks.


TBC … for sure. thanks to everyone for tuning in. F --ing time. HST said the true enemy is the face on the clock. So true … if only we had more time to discuss - I could blow your mind …

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And what about a much older but similar sounding expression, Ed : “And so to bed.” From one of my favourite “diarists”, Samuel Pepys!


Though I’m guessing he got back up again? :thinking:

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Every day! He worked for the treasury department in 17th century London…

From Lisa Randall’s book Dark Matter and the Dinosaurs relevant to our discussion - " To account for all that extra matter, Zwicky proposed the existence of what he named dunkle Materie, which is German for dark matter and sounds either more ominous or sillier depending on how you pronounce it."



The pronunciation you’re looking for (which will have varying degrees of silliness, depending on the ears doing the listening) is

DOON-kleh mah-TAIR-ee-eh

Does that help?

(Funny how so many “really important” ideas show up in German, eh? You know, Weltschmerz, dunkle Materie, Schadenfreude, Angst, Gestalt, Kindergarten, Sauerkraut …)

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