And when we can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them, what would you, Marco, like to have happen?
A symptom locates a pathology. Is longing and desire a pathology for you?
I do not consider longing and desire for freedom from external forces to conform to an agenda that I have no interest in performing a symptom.
The desire to restrict the movements of other people to conform to my desired outcome could be problematic. Capitalists do this consistently. Making hidden agendas open to public scrutiny and debate is good. Pretending that all desired outcomes leads to “wishful thinking” is a ploy used by the status quo to assert its own dominance.
As a gay boy, I used lots of wishful thinking. It enabled me to survive. Magical thinking can be good for your health. Realists die as soon as they are diagnosed. I rejected all forms of medicalization and I’m still here.
When I grew up I also learned how to use meta-analysis. You can care passionately for a desired outcome and use meta-analysis and you can do both at the same time. This seems to be at the heart of the aperspectival movement Gebser predicts will take off in the near future. That doesn’t seem to be happening on a broad scale but it is evident in small networks such as ours. I hope we can continue cultivate caring with analysis.
Contempt for wishful thinking is sometimes a condition of the Realist who seeks a compromise that is actually a recapitulation of the aggressive moves of the Master. When you listen to someone who has contempt for your desired outcome ask yourself, " Who is he working for?"
These are certain signs to know,
Faithful friend, from flattering foe.
I am highlighting language and differences as a marker for further exploration. Words enable, words divide. Most of my experience in non consensus reality is not verbal. It is affective, and works with deconstructing the basic templates from which words and mind and culture arise. The deconstruction of these cognitive template ( give up form!) are a harrowing descent into hell for some people. It was for me. I have no doubt that this encounter of the fifth kind is necessary to mature into a deeper communion with the forces that enable us to perform in these complex bodymind(s) within ecologies that are ever changing.
After deconstruction, comes reconstruction. Co-construction is imaginal and it is real . The LGBTQ movement, Black Live Matter movement, the Disclosure movement within the UFO movement, are in the vanguard. Are there excesses and distortions in these group dynamics? Of course!
And what do you want to have happen?
This is a question that can touch the mind at different levels. And this is a good practice.
I dedicate my remarks to a community of practice. It don’t mean a thing if it aint got that swing. A sense of rhythm wherein you move in measure like a dancer. We need to move between different kinds of language and adopt meta-perspectives as an actor puts on and off a costume for a certain performance.
And when you criticize groups , Marco, for wishful thinking and having desires, do more of that and do it better.
We need good critics. Good critics are masters of tone. The good critic ( and there are lots of bad critics) speaks to the level of the performance where the change is happening and does so with care and concern.
Ultimately, the Critic can become an Artist, too, but most critics caught in the undertow of this deficient mental structure have not given up form, yet. They are trying to put new wine in old wine skins. What happens? The wine skin breaks. When they have given up form ( in my partial view) and survived that experience a new consensus reality will arise, and they will be singing a different tune, in a different key.