Cosmos Café [5/21/19] - Death Café

I enjoyed this conversation. We navigated away from death not out of fear but because of a general intuition that death is a brief event; its ‘existence’ is fully dependant on life. We naturally concluded that death is not final; death by its very nature is a natural cause of its own death. :skull:


I would like to go in exploratory mode for what seems to be of interest for most of us here, the topic of body as a case of mistaken identity in the materialist orientation. Death to the body as we know it! I personally have been making valiant attempts to shed my body; see sexuality as something to transcend; go beyond body/mental activity to access what is beyond or outside the brain. But what I want is perhaps beyond the human life span and death of this little consciousness of mine may not allow me to ‘see’ the future of the body beyond the material world. Yet, with reminders from John and Michael, I have learned to include the body, or include learning about the body in these explorations.

Murphy quotes Ayala in The Future of the Body: “Inorganic evolution went beyond the bounds of [its] previous physical and chemical patternings when it gave rise to life. In the same sense, biological evolution transcended itself when it gave rise to man.” It is wise, as most respectable speculative thinkers remind us (and as noted above), to include our biology in the mix. What role does the body play as we transcend our biological evolution?

https://www.infiniteconversations.com/t/the-future-of-the-body/2547

Murphy provides a useful list (provided by Johnny in the link above) of extraordinary perceptions, abilities, capacities . . . a long list of attributes available even as we are lodged in everyday biological existence. The body receives and translates according to its knowledge of the language received.

So what is the body? A walking wave function? A tool? A vessel? What role will the body play as we go out and play at the edges of reality? Murphy notes that as life developed from inorganic and as humankind developed from ancestors, ‘quantum jumps’ in development (discovery of fire, the emergence of language, the birth of religious awareness as witnessed in the Axial Age) made these developments possible. I equate his use of quantum jumping to be more aligned with Gebser’s mutations than with the scale of the quanta, I understand quanta to be very very small but capable of abilities outside of the biological framework, which could have grand implications for how we respond in an ‘age’ ripe for mutation.

. . . I am at the edge of my map (and all this typing and sitting has me feeling like a slug-body in need of movement) . . . so I pass any further thoughts out to you!

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