Cosmos Café - Music Edition

Wow!
There is some powerful wisdom in that song (along with killer harmonies!). A complement to “The Living Years” by Mike & the Mechanics…

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Yes, I dearly love H. of Bingen’s comositions, art, her entire story.
Love Thomas Tallis, but don’t know G. de Machaut, will look for him, thanks.
Yes, bliss. Comes to me from many kinds of music, but mostly Adagio/lento and mostly minor keys. Also, certain windchimes, ocean waves, wind, birdsong…

C#m7 I think I know, but #9???

Never too late to learn how to read music…or anything…
except maybe mountain climbing? :upside_down_face:

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Hmm … before I went to bed last night, I read it, but you are right: it seems to have vanished. 'Twould seem that our own AI is more nefarious (or clumsy) than originally thought.

And yes, Pythagoras was a trickster. He was into all kinds of things, but not everything got equal attention, especially by those who wanted to follow his lead. Of course, what most math teachers do with him scares off a lot of folks instead of intriguing them to find out more. Een when I was learning music and playing so long ago, there was no mention of him and his monochord, but that’s a way to get people engaged and interested.

Having said that, though, any music (and other arts) in school is better than none, which seems to be where we’re headed.

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Music… ART is Participating in Being World Creators-Players?

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I am enjoying this thread from a distance. There is so much going on that I am reluctant to join in as I might not quite understand what is happening. So, I give a response that is ever hopeful that we can turn this monophasic dying culture into a richer, vibrant polyphasic culture. It is not about cracking a code, but about catching the rhythm. This is the meta-message I am catching from this lively exchange. As the old culture collapses, there is often a creative wave of coming together of motifs and themes that many generations have put together. I speculate wildly here,

And is there a relationship between Wendt’s walking wave function and the Tibetan Rainbow Body? I believe there is.

We can’t make meaning if we don’t make sense and finding an orientation in space is primary. Up down left right in out-and this is what our vestibular system ( inner ear)does.

And what holds all of these sensory systems together? Aristotle tried to articulate this as a common sense that coordinates the basic five. The Buddhist consider mind as sixth sense. And the transpersonal senses add another five to the basic five of the physical. So, we have ten senses at a bare minimum. I am sure, based upon a dream yoga practice that has spanned decades, that there are many, many more than ten. We can combine and re-combine senses as we release ourselves from the reducing valve of the physical brain ( not to be confused with mind). We are much more wierd than any of us can possibly imagine.

At any rate, I would guess that the Subtle Self is a necessary ingredient in the interplay of all these vibrations and frequencies. The Self is a synesthesia, an overlapping of multiple systems in synch.

I imagine the Axial Age ( which some of us are studying) was an age that emerged out of the inter-cultural exchanges that were happening on the Silk Road. They were sharing music, poetry, meditation techniques and mathematics as well as spices and luxury items. Some persons went into retreats, in the forests, at the edge of cities. They were aware of different kinds of differences and cultivated these capacities. Adequate translations created conditions for transformations.

Perhaps, as we open up the Internet, we have a new kind of portal to these kinds of intra-active zones from which all of the arts and sciences have emerged. Imagine that?

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The Silk Road & Others were the Internet in Infancy of Human Beings Growing their Gifts plus their Ignorance of the Powers of said Gifts.And yet maybe it’s always a Miracle to Play in the Uncertainty, for within the Uncertainty failure is not Certain, it seems? Hey I just want to make a Beautiful Noise😜

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There is a patterning and a scattering of patterns…life is like that. And so we have multiple descriptions. And chords and semi-colons. We articulate our symbolisms in myriad ways. The more we can turn our tightened muscles into breath based consciousness the more we can catch the vibe, detect size and shape, and put into words, pictures, diagrams, metaphors and narratives. We are doing this in many of our events and threads both structured and unstructured.

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So very well expressed …my main muscles of practice are the abdomen-stomach & jaw-mouth, for air & solid stuff seem to feed/nourish this particular nexus-entangled infinity.

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Well, though, could it be that AI music is worse than no music???
I seem to constantly be doing things on the platform that he (our resident mindful robot) doesn’t approve of! Don’t think I’d find HIS music very dancable! . :):wink:

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My first entry in the Cosmos Cafe - Music Edition is my favorite musician, Bob Dylan, who has been a sort of guide and soundtrack to most of my adolescent and adult life. I chose this particular track, not because of the interesting arrangement (although it is a great arrangement), but because I just bought two tickets to see the new movie about Dylan coming out, which is playing next week (!) at a theater here in Cleveland. I really like the communal feeling of the Infinite Conversations/Metapsychosis/Cosmos.Earth Co-op, and the movie coming out covers a similiar fascinating collective experiment, this one from the 70s, in music, art, poetry, life, consciousness, you name it.

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My Dad played Blood on the Tracks often. Dylan and Baez were on the turntable as much as Stevie Wonder and Earth, Wind, & Fire.

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I love Blood on the Tracks. I think there is probably quite a bit of footage in the film coming out with Dylan and Baez singing together.

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Like father, like daughter…

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A harmony of worlds.

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Trying to get back into the rhythm of everyday, it seemed like some “light” (not weightwise) reading might help, so I let myself be talked into working through Joas/Bellah’s Axial Age and Its Consequences. It’s all about what happened 2500+ years ago. Our venerable contributors all seem to think that the focus was a big shift in religiosity. Really? That’s it? Or is there more to this than that? Well, it was one of those questions you just have to deal with, and what comes up on my playlist? Well, …

Go figure.

Reminded me of the adage, “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.” So, is the road to heaven then paved with good ones? I read that somewhere recently. Also caught my eye.

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“Persnickety Hippie” here I had two Grand-Fathers they both worked with their Hands in different vocations.This notion of Road to wherever,Hell or Heaven is frustrating to me because I ‘ve always wondered who made the Road that goes in two directions & if it’s a Circle that moves in Both directions depending our direction of intention?I am not making any for or against which one to choose.I tell You the Ones that Maintain whatever little piece of Road they been given the task to(which seems to be in the middle of wherever) Maintain; that the travelers would pick-up their stuff behind them & as my Papa Phil taught’ “clean-up the Campsite as U leave the Forest”.That seems to Be the Gift he left to me in terms where I place my Intention,for it’s all a act of/in Creation not the Where…it seems in my Humble Experience.

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I am positive you are right, that there is much much more to The Axial Age that a shift in religiosity. Although that could depend on how you define “religion”, in its narrowist sense or its deepest/widest…
Btwy, was reading Ever Present Origin, with which I have bones to pick, but also find deeply impressive in terms of the sheer scope of what he was trying to do. I have underlines a lot and talked to him in the margins…often came across your Cosmos apellation, Achronon and see why you chose it. I briefly considered trying out Diaphainon… But it’s far too weighty (serious gravitas!). Still I was glad to have read the book (someone was throwing it out, unread and I got it!) and to realize that in some sense what Origin was trying to do, is a what we all either do without realizing it or do in awareness, as best we can: live inside a world and as that world, whose origin, whose luminosity shines through each fragment we assemble into a whole, ever greater, never complete. This is something of what re-ligion CAN mean, yes?
All of this “work” from other ages, not written down for whatever reason, will have been lost to us now. All we have is what we happen to have been left— in writting— what we happen to have found…
Like fragments of Sappho/sifting down to us.

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Nobody made it, so we’re all responsible. And if it’s a lemniscate, what then? Mutatis mutandis your question applies.

We’re all Caretakers whether we like it or not.

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Aye, therein lies a rub.

As I would hope you would. I don’t like Gebser because he’s right, but because he offers us a handy (five-fingered) model to think about things that move us deeply.

'Twas the name of my erstwhile blog.

Well … yes!

It would seem so, yes, but it is we who may be the perpetuators.

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So Ed can U Give Context & History around Caretaker,there seems to Be a ??? lot of Anxiety around Care These Days?

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